Comments on: Improving the Lives of Northerners: LPC Round Table http://carbonfixated.com/improving-the-lives-of-northerners-lpc-round-table/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=improving-the-lives-of-northerners-lpc-round-table Photosynthesising in a CO2-enriched world Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:35:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: CAM http://carbonfixated.com/improving-the-lives-of-northerners-lpc-round-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1171 CAM Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:08:08 +0000 http://carbonfixated.com/improving-the-lives-of-northerners-lpc-round-table/#comment-1171 I don't think there's a connection. Canada has a pretty good network, it's just a question of fit for purpose, and the Canadian network does its job. If you are talking about D'Aleo's histrionics about GISS, Gavin Schmidt had this to say, which I think is relevant: <blockquote><strong>NASA: What about the meteorological stations? There have been suggestions that some of the stations are located in the wrong place, are using outdated instrumentation, etc. </strong> Schmidt: Global weather services gather far more data than we need. To get the structure of the monthly or yearly anomalies over the United States, for example, you'd just need a handful of stations, but there are actually some 1,100 of them. You could throw out 50 percent of the station data or more, and you'd get basically the same answers. Individual stations do get old and break down, since they're exposed to the elements, but this is just one of things that the NOAA has to deal with. One recent innovation is the set up of a climate reference network alongside the current stations so that they can look for potentially serious issues at the large scale — and they haven't found any yet.</blockquote> I don’t think there’s a connection. Canada has a pretty good network, it’s just a question of fit for purpose, and the Canadian network does its job. If you are talking about D’Aleo’s histrionics about GISS, Gavin Schmidt had this to say, which I think is relevant:

NASA: What about the meteorological stations? There have been suggestions that some of the stations are located in the wrong place, are using outdated instrumentation, etc.

Schmidt: Global weather services gather far more data than we need. To get the structure of the monthly or yearly anomalies over the United States, for example, you’d just need a handful of stations, but there are actually some 1,100 of them. You could throw out 50 percent of the station data or more, and you’d get basically the same answers. Individual stations do get old and break down, since they’re exposed to the elements, but this is just one of things that the NOAA has to deal with. One recent innovation is the set up of a climate reference network alongside the current stations so that they can look for potentially serious issues at the large scale — and they haven’t found any yet.

]]> By: Jim Prall http://carbonfixated.com/improving-the-lives-of-northerners-lpc-round-table/comment-page-1/#comment-1140 Jim Prall Wed, 17 Feb 2010 21:21:01 +0000 http://carbonfixated.com/improving-the-lives-of-northerners-lpc-round-table/#comment-1140 I wonder if the funding shortfall for upkeep or staffing of Arctic research stations is in any way connected with the reported drop in the number of stations reporting current temperature data? You know, the one that Steve McIntyre wants to turn into another "-gate" climate cover-up, because ... well, you ask him. He was also convinced there was a big cover-up because of recent trouble getting good weather data out of Bolivia. I wonder if the funding shortfall for upkeep or staffing of Arctic research stations is in any way connected with the reported drop in the number of stations reporting current temperature data? You know, the one that Steve McIntyre wants to turn into another “-gate” climate cover-up, because … well, you ask him. He was also convinced there was a big cover-up because of recent trouble getting good weather data out of Bolivia.

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